Talk:Ghiblification (ChatGPT trend)

Full Twitter thread from Visakan Veerasmy

The full twitter thread seems like a great summary/exemplar of many discussions I've seen about AI art, copyright, training data, and intellectual property over the past three years. not all of it is relevant to this page so i excerpted it to make ti shorter, but here's the full thread, it might be useful for a broader page. -- Quaelegit (talk) 23:16, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

there are several interesting things to be said about the mass Ghibli event

First thing is that people don’t often know in advance what they’d want out of a tool until they see it for themselves. “generate any image you can think of!” draws a blank for lot of people

so lesson in there for anybody making things; customers/users need more guidance than you might think.

Second thing is I think this is an ongoing preference cascade and consensus cascade, at least some of the people who are adamantly anti-AI concede this is a cute/fun use case

for a lot of people this is the first time they’re like “ok fine I want one for myself and heck the whole timeline is doing it so what’s so wrong if I do it too”

I think this is probably a good thing. I think it gets more ppl interested in art and visuals etc

I wanna say I do also feel for any artist or illustrator who feels anxious about the explosion of people sharing images that were not directly made by a human. I think ppl deserve compassion and understanding here. I think it’s even understandable if some get really angry & upset

I do genuinely believe that in the long run even artists and illustrators will be better off from all of this. I don’t have the energy to piece together the argument but you can look back at things like how bank employees # went up after ATMs

fourth, I think “Studio Ghibli style” seems less like it’s stealing an individual’s work (vs “Miyazaki style”). this has interesting implications for people who want to share their styles vs people who don’t, I think there could be some useful coordination/consensus around this

I do think it’s gross when like AI maximalists sneer at artists with like “we will copy your work however we like, deal with it”. I think in the interim it would be nice if we could at least try to respect the wishes of artists who don’t want their work to be in the training data

tho like personally as a writer for eg I long ago accepted that all of my work in the public domain is pretty much meant for remixing by anybody anywhere, this was my personal position even before AI, like it’s the nature of scrapbooking etc, like Prince using Dave Chappelle-

this is imo the abundance mindset spirit of continual remixing that’s maximally winning for any creative, which is that if anyone uses your work in ways that you’re unhappy with, the best thing to do is often to use it as a springboard to get even more attention for your work

but doing this does take a certain temperament which not everyone has, and it’s not really fair to expect everyone to have it. but that’s my view.

see also: having your work pirated is good actually

one of the things that I hold to be true axiomatically is that there will always be people who love works made by other people. And we will find each other. When I get rich enough to afford paintings there are several people whose paintings I really wanna buy, eg: [I love these works by Jeremy Mann...]

I love these oil painting cityscapes by Jeremy Mann, they take my breath away every time. When you make art, I think it's always useful to ask the question, "What is it about this medium that lets me do something I can't do with any other medium?" Jeremy has this figured out

could I get a print instead, or ask AI to generate me an image in the style of Jeremy Mann? Sure. But what I really love and appreciate is Mann’s personal perspective, his personal touch, his way of seeing, the choices he makes, etc etc. that remains valuable in my eyes

none of these reduce the value of the original

they only elevate it

a bunch of people are gonna be curious to check out Ghibli films for the first time because of the mass Ghibli event

and that’s a good thing in my eyes

More links I'm turning up on Google just now

Some other news articles, not sure if they're more helpful: https://medium.com/@zaapr/the-ghibli-phenomenon-a-blend-of-innovation-and-controversy-1dcc24e52f81 https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2025/03/27/the-ai-generated-studio-ghibli-trend-explained/

example tweet, ghiblifying a Seinfeld screenshot, in a tweet date 26 March: https://x.com/Sardaukar1337/status/1904981889410040101

"Summary of the Drama" by TechRadar: https://www.techradar.com/computing/artificial-intelligence/i-refuse-to-jump-on-chatgpts-studio-ghibli-image-generator-bandwagon-because-it-goes-against-everything-i-love-about-those-movies -- oh but this misuses the Miyazaki quote

More later maybe but it's a start for now. -- Quaelegit (talk) 23:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)